Subject	Re: their parts cloning hurts us all
Posted by	Ice95z on June 03, 2009 at 1:47 PM
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In Reply To	their parts cloning hurts us all posted by dpjax on June 03, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Message	Congrats on the dyno #'s! pretty inpressive for that turbo. Cloning, yes. Competition, no. notice how when these manifolds came out though, the signifigant price drop of ms manifolds...i think they are around 600-700 now compared to 1000 about a year ago. Competition helps customers, it lowers prices. Reguardless of personal ethics, it is what it is.
Follow Ups	Project Update: GT600R Dyno Results Inside - JCubed 23:16:46 06/02/09 nice curves (n/m) - gt300zxtt 23:23:33 06/02/09 Where's 7300? (n/m) - BobbyT 23:27:01 06/02/09 Not there, with the Microtech he had control of the - JCubed 23:29:22 06/02/09 You're a local? Awesome. Build looks great, hope to see you - J-Mart 23:48:03 06/02/09 I'm not to far from them, about an hour and a half. - JCubed 11:18:23 06/03/09 You said 'only 20 psi'? What's the max - yobobrox 23:58:38 06/02/09 pump gas - gt300zxtt 00:02:03 06/03/09 Well, yeah, I assume that too, - yobobrox 00:05:48 06/03/09 Well my initial goals were 500 wheel. - JCubed 10:46:17 06/03/09 Thnx for the info and dyno; good stuff - yobobrox 12:01:42 06/03/09 GT600R's are the GT2860R turbo which only produces a - Ash's Z 09:43:24 06/03/09 Hey Ash. What are your thoughts on the GT2854R - Mr.Stacy 10:18:42 06/03/09 are you using the old nomenclature? - gt300zxtt 13:48:20 06/03/09 Why AMS manifolds? (n/m) - Jason300zxTT 05:21:09 06/03/09 $. Ethics are not a concern for everyone. (n/m) - ZiNnYc 08:30:22 06/03/09 Re: Why AMS manifolds? - merlin3 08:36:15 06/03/09 You don't get on here much, do you? - BigTDogg (MA) 08:48:54 06/03/09 Re: You don't get on here much, do you? - merlin3 10:30:02 06/03/09 if copying is "what the free market is all about" and "takes - LJZTT 11:24:23 06/03/09 Does not work like that. - CWRaab(philly) 22:00:32 06/03/09 That's fine, but if you were on here, and you did read - BigTDogg (MA) 11:28:35 06/03/09 I'm not really trying to start the AMS debate with my - JCubed 10:30:22 06/03/09 Re: I'm not really trying to start the AMS debate with my - merlin3 10:34:12 06/03/09 because i am still waiting for ams to develop original parts - gt300zxtt 12:55:42 06/03/09 2nd - Mickie 14:17:31 06/03/09 but would you buy a set for $375 shipped? i think you might. - SuparexTT 10:42:40 06/03/09 I wouldn't. (n/m) - SactoTodd 13:08:57 06/03/09 "For me to poop on!" -Triumph (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 15:48:11 06/03/09 Didn't think twice about it, bought MS - Broke_as_**** 16:30:00 06/03/09 I didn't (n/m) - zgene4 17:05:17 06/03/09 Questionable material on the hottest part? No thanks. - SeedyROM 22:33:24 06/03/09 i did. (n/m) - fantomZ(OH) 09:29:10 06/03/09 Why not? has anyone actually had a issue with them? - zxtuner161 10:28:00 06/03/09 their parts cloning hurts us all - dpjax 11:33:38 06/03/09 Re: their parts cloning hurts us all - Ice95z 13:47:07 06/03/09 This kind of competiton appears to help customers - na300zx (OH) 14:04:15 06/03/09 That is the big picture. Not ignorant just not biased. - Ice95z 14:16:26 06/03/09 its greed, its not good in a niche market like the z32 (n/m) - dpjax 14:21:20 06/03/09 you lack principles - gt300zxtt 15:08:43 06/03/09 nope, the big picture is one day there wont be new things - Halo Z 15:50:18 06/03/09 Yes, they make profit from copying, then do their own - zxtuner161 15:59:37 06/03/09 lol! - Z_Cherub 16:16:35 06/03/09 exactly, and we are still waiting on AMS to create an - gt300zxtt 21:51:56 06/03/09 ppl that copy, don't do real R&D. (n/m) - Halo Z 17:42:35 06/03/09 Not if you make your own manifolds ;D - zxtuner161 15:56:29 06/03/09 but it's ok for people to clone Kaminari and Nissan parts??? - z32_driver 16:05:47 06/03/09 Coz made some unethical decisions, and his support went away - Z_Cherub 16:19:25 06/03/09 Good point z32_driver - Cuis-Z 16:25:08 06/03/09 There are lots of copied parts out there... - dpjax 16:44:59 06/03/09 Well said - SeedyROM 22:41:29 06/03/09 I can't believe people still don't "get it" (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 12:21:06 06/04/09
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